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Post  Almondo74 on Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:24 pm

has anyone brought 1 of those ally rads on ebay, from china or aus....?

was thinking of getting 1 or a eg civic 3core ally rad and have it modified.

does anyone know the thread size of the fan switch?, im looking for a lower temperature one, seen low temp civic switchs but id imagine the threads are different......

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Re: Alloy Rad, lower temp fan switch

Post  dominator on Mon Nov 07, 2011 6:34 pm

cant be any worse than the srd rad, have a word with strider, he`s from that way, maybe he can shed some light on the quality
never heard of a suzuki low temp switch
have a look on some motorfactor sites, some of them have the thread type etc

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Re: Alloy Rad, lower temp fan switch

Post  Gedis on Mon Nov 07, 2011 7:04 pm

i got one of ebay, it's like double the thickness, but a wee bit shorter, no problems so far with it

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Re: Alloy Rad, lower temp fan switch

Post  Almondo74 on Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:34 pm

striders from malaysia not china, bit like asking us questions about germany lol.

the ebay 1's look like the srd rads in the photo just they charge 3times the price.

i didnt mean suzuki actually making 1 i thought that mayb a switch off another car will fit which might have a lower temp

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Post  stevieh6 on Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:26 am

you gotta link for the rad? i havent seen them

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Re: Alloy Rad, lower temp fan switch

Post  SUZUKI ROCKS on Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:30 pm

Silly question boys but i gotta ask Embarassed

Whats the benefit of an ally rad? Is it just lighter or does it cool the water better? Neutral Embarassed

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Post  hobo on Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:35 pm

fuck knows but dunno if its just me but i've had stones go through 3 of my rads good old rad weld Very Happy

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Post  stevieh6 on Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:53 pm

ali disperses the heat faster than stock, hence cools more efficiently

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Re: Alloy Rad, lower temp fan switch

Post  Gedis on Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:07 pm

i got one like this one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-core-Aluminum-radiator-Suzuki-Swift-GTI-89-94-/300609782687?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45fdbd439f

it's a bit shorter, but nearly twice as thick

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Re: Alloy Rad, lower temp fan switch

Post  Almondo74 on Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:31 am

SUZUKI ROCKS wrote:Silly question boys but i gotta ask Embarassed

Whats the benefit of an ally rad? Is it just lighter or does it cool the water better? Neutral Embarassed


As sed above, lighter , disapates heat quicker and looks better.

yh thats the one i was thinking about gedis

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Re: Alloy Rad, lower temp fan switch

Post  gtpswift on Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:45 am

well im not convinced.
aluminium actually absorbs heat at a slower rate then copper its dissipation is slightly better but absorption vs dissipation co-oefficient is arguably worse , it is lighter and stronger and as such the tubes can be bigger sizes without risk of balooning, which increases the cooling capacity but the experience rule of thumb is an alloy radiator needs to be 30 percent larger than a copper core, which in turn has more water to fill it which is no bad thing but in turn this is heavier. a cheap aluminium radiator may only have friction fit fins, rendering them only 30-50 percent efficient at heat transfer (the fin is a secondary cooling device its the bar which contributes the most) where as the expensive ones are have furnace fused fin and bar construction aiding in heat transfer.
as for the finish of radiators black is ther most efficient, most OEM radiators are black not alloy silver, another reason why aftermarket radiators etc are larger than necessary to overcome the inneficiencies for the sake of fashion.
Alloy can also suffer higher corrosion co-eficiencies especially in applications with alloy engines...interesting
Alloy has its place no doubt, but at a cost. The debate will rage Im guessing here int he UK with cool summers a cheapo aftermarket alloy radiator will work OK

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Re: Alloy Rad, lower temp fan switch

Post  dominator on Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:36 pm

in my experience workin with ali it takes longer to heat up but it keeps the heat for so much longer compared to say steel, dont realy work with copper so cant realy coment on that
On another note iv been having cooling issues since it started getting cooler, she just wont warm properly, 1st time I noticed I had to drive to waymouth, bout 30 miles from me but its all A roads and the needle didnt get above 1/4 way up, so I pulled over, left it running and it came up halfway like normal but start driving again and down it goes, iv flushed and bled the system twice and its still doin it scratch

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Re: Alloy Rad, lower temp fan switch

Post  gtpswift on Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:46 pm

what thermostat is in it?

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Re: Alloy Rad, lower temp fan switch

Post  dominator on Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:08 pm

Std uk type which im sure is the lower temp 1
But the thing is this is the 2nd winter this engine will be in since I built it, it was fine last year, thats why im a bit confused about it all

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Re: Alloy Rad, lower temp fan switch

Post  gtpswift on Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:37 pm

Standard dash gauge?
anything else change since last winter?
is the thermostat stuck open?

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